Showing posts with label Emergent. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Emergent. Show all posts

04 April 2008

Submergent Church

All this talk of the Emergent Church has me thinking maybe we need to revisit the "Submergent Church"...have you heard of it?

here's an article on the Submergent Church from the Christian Century from last year:

The submergent church

A man in his mid-30s sits in a recliner in a dark room. Bursts of light from an episode of Dancing with the Stars flash on the walls and furniture. He grasps a cold beer, and a bag of potato chips is in his lap. This man is a pastor, and he is—at this very moment—leading his flock.

When most people think of ministry, they conjure up images of prayers with upraised hands, bold marches for peace and justice, praise songs to a rockin' beat, or fiery sermons. "That's just not me," says Michael Bunglebottom. "My congregation understands that and even appreciates it. We're not your ordinary church."

Bunglebottom refers to the Master's Playhouse in Toledo. The congregation is affiliated with the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), but you would have a hard time figuring that out if you wandered into one of their worship services on a Sunday morning. "We understand that people don't go for labels anymore," notes Martha Edwards, one of the church's assistant directors, a position that is roughly equivalent to a deacon in other congregations.

Actually, you would have a hard time even getting to one of these services. This congregation does not advertise—not even in the yellow pages—and its telephone number is unlisted. The denominational office has only a post office box on file for the church, not even a street address. In order to attend one of their "Plays," as members call worship services, I had to be blindfolded and driven on a circuitous route through Toledo by one of the Cast Members, as church members are called.

"We try to eliminate the temptations inherent in most ministries, the pride, power and politics of what they do. That especially applies to the fascination with numbers," said Bunglebottom in an interview conducted on the Playhouse's Main Stage, an exquisite mahogany platform with the latest in audio, visual and lighting equipment. The stage is framed by a set of giant maroon velour curtains edged in gold stitching. "We don't worry about the ego that comes with being a church of huge numbers because most people don't even know we exist," he said.

Despite the wealth of theater images, it is the intentional invisibility that is the identifying mark of the Master's Playhouse and similar groups in what is called the Submergent Church movement. The core theological distinction of Submergents is that they see their faith lives as "hid with God."

"We stay put in our prayer closets. With all the violence in the world driven by religious fervor, we don't feel the need to show off," said Bunglebottom. "Besides, we're comfortable here with our close friends and family. If strangers came into our midst, it would throw off the delicate balance of fellowship."



For all the subdued praise that Bunglebottom and his Cast Members give to the Submergent Church movement, there are detractors. "What about the call to make disciples?" asked Violet Long, Bunglebottom's presiding elder in the Presbyterian Church's Northwest Ohio District. "What about ministries that strive for God's peace, justice and mercy?" Long seems to be suggesting that advocates of the Submergent Church movement are simply lazy.

Johnson Clinebell, chair of the national board of the Submergent Church Dialogue Team, says Long and others like her do not understand the movement. "With respect to God's grace," he says, "less is more. It is not something that should be received in large doses. Nor should we show it off like some expensive pearl."

This theological approach means that in most Submergent churches, worship seldom lasts longer than 15 minutes and, apart from the service, there are no other activities. Instead, Cast Members believe that faith is lived out in the ordinary moments of life. That means that while Bunglebottom is watching television alone at home, eating potato chips and drinking beer, he is feeding his own soul and setting a good example for the congregation.

"What we have found," said Clinebell, "is that people are eager to put a lot more in the offering plate if they don't have to sit through long sermons or serve on committees." The Master's Playhouse is a prime example. The congregation generates so much revenue from its weekly offering that the church could purchase and completely renovate—with cash—a historic downtown Toledo theater. Bunglebottom is also able to farm out all administrative work to contractors. In fact, he works only about an hour and a half each week for his full-time salary, and that includes his commute time.

Many people, Clinebell says, have a hard time picturing a 15-minute worship service. "Most Submergent congregations have great sound systems and will listen to a praise song on CD. Then, if they can find a Bible, someone might read something. After that, the pastor will say what's on his mind. Then they go home."

Clinebell admits that most people "just don't get" the Submergent Church movement. "That's OK. That's just the way we like it—off the radar. We're the unseen leaven in society."

A Submergent Church may be coming to a neighborhood near you soon. But you won't know about it.
James Choate-Munitz writes for the Aldersgate Gazette, a blog at agazette.blogspot.com.

03 October 2007

Democrats know their Bible better than Republicans; Horrors!!!


Watch out:

pigs fly!
hell freezes over!


My former professor and friend Diana Butler Bass has written a very interesting piece on the "God's Politics" blog in which she offers important reflections about Democrats running for president who may know their theology and their Bible better than Republican candidates. This observation is in concert with her claim that the linear (and simplistic) description of Left/Liberals on one end with Right/Conservatives on the other end of the spectrum is an inaccurate and unhelpful model in both politics and in theology. In my own understanding of politics and theology I cannot any longer place myself in solely "one camp" and I find myself often disagreeing with knee-jerk liberals on many issues, while also finding hard-line conservatives to be unsatisfactory much of the time. Does this mean that I am in the mushy middle? I do not know, and reserve the right to change, develop, listen to a variety of opinion, and find an approach that makes sense to me. Some of the discussion of "Generous Orthodoxy" that Brian McLaren discusses appeals to me, but I am no expert on what this actually means, and need to explore it further

One of the great gifts of seminary was that I developed close friendships with people that "on paper" I should not have been friends with, based on some simplistic theological or political or regional "litmus test." I wholeheartedly believe that God's view is wider and broader and deeper than my own limited understanding, so who am I to judge harshly those who might have a different view. I also believe that at the foot of the cross and on the Eucharistic table there is room for all of us to bring our burdens, lay them down, and find forgiveness, fellowship and reconciliation.

It seems to me, that the Holy Spirit is at work in our presidential politics and doing, perhaps, surprising, new things in unexpected ways ... I am curious about the next chapter of this "book" in which we are all characters!

What Will Dobson Do? (by Diana Butler Bass)

With James Dobson and major conservative evangelical leaders threatening to bolt the Republican Party if Rudy Giuliani is nominated for president, conventional wisdom about God and politics has been turned on its head. For the last 25 years, conservative evangelicals could reliably count on the Republicans to choose a candidate acceptable to their version of Christian politics. This year, however, the leading Republican candidates seem unable to articulate any convincing religious message, much less a strongly biblical perspective on issues. All the while, the three leading Democratic candidates can testify to personal faith, possess robust theological views, and ground many policies in broadly biblical principles.

In recent weeks, Rudy Giuliani has awkwardly quoted scripture ("let he who is without sin cast the first stone") to defend his personal record with adultery, multiple divorces, and family dissension. John McCain, an Episcopalian, said he was really a member of a Baptist church in Phoenix for the last 20 years—only to later confess that he had not been baptized in that tradition, thus excluding him from membership in the congregation. Fred Thompson rarely attends church.

Read the rest HERE.